People often criticise me for living in the 1970s.
Perhaps I do dwell on the past, but that is where I was and where I come from, the 1970s.
I learnt my politics in that time and in this place, Queensland.
Having said that, I would like to describe one aspect of what happened in the JOH era in Queensland that may assist activists in the 2000s.
It is an aspect of struggle that was not adequately covered in the 2006 Museum of Brisbane “Taking to the Streets” exhibition.
The White Lab Coat Wearers
Lawyers (like Terry O’Gorman) and law students, some of them members of the Qld Council for Civil Liberties, wore white lab coats with “Legal Observer” written on the back while attending some of the street marches that occurred in the period 1977-1979.
While the concern of these individuals was commendable — the concept of “Legal observer” did provide at least the illusion of accountability — the notion being that respectable lawyers and law students were keeping an eye out for the “bad apples” in the Queensland police force, who were prone to using excessive force against demonstrators.
That was until one of those legal observers (Terry O’Gorman) got arrested at the gates of parliament by special branch officers. These officers included Inspector Terry Flanagan and Detective Barry Krosch (see comment by Special Branch officer Barry Krosch below denying involvement in this arrest).
Standing beside Terry on that occasion as he was pulled through to the police (or parliament) side of the gate was a young woman, Maris Element.
As he was arrested by special branch, Terry grabbed the nearest arm he could. The special branch coppers tried to pull him through the nearly closed metal gate that was being shut by police to prevent protesters from getting through.
Later Maris remarked how Terry had (inadvertently) nearly broken her arm, such was the force of his grip.
In the end, the notion of “legal observer” proved to be just as illusory as the ‘bad-apple‘ copper concept itself.
It was more a matter of ‘which-side-are-you-on?‘
In court, some lawyers gave their time to defend some of the thousands of people who were arrested — once again, a commendable action by the individuals concerned.
A very small number of demonstrators were even acquitted, no doubt in part because of these lawyers (and sometimes in spite of them).
Most people were convicted by the magistrates who had come up through the police magistrate system that operated in Queensland in the 1960s and before.
Generally speaking, both police and magistrates shared Joh’s view of street marchers.
A different method of selecting magistrates prevails in Queensland in 2006. Nowadays, some people are acquitted of minor, quasi-criminal charges that arise out of demonstrations.
Political Activist Defence
During those years, the overwhelming burden of real political activist defence work was carried out by a representative of the Civil Liberties Co-ordinating Committee (CLCC) (later the Civil Liberties Campaign Group [CLCG]).
That person was the woman standing beside Terry O’Gorman at the gates of parliament as he was arrested after the rally and march for women’s right to choose. Her name is Maris Element. Maris was unpaid and was not a lawyer (then or now).
After people were arrested in a street march, Maris would negotiate bail with the watchouse sergeant, provide advice, arrange for a duty solicitor (if required), help defendants prepare their own defence, ring up lawyers to assist, keep records, collect bail at demonstrations, round up witnesses, report back to CLCC and CLCG meetings, record decisions in minutes, and even chair the meetings in notable emergency situations.
Maris kept a “Demo Book: Civil Liberties Defence” which contained the names and addresses of all the people arrested (in alphabetical order).
Many of these people were arrested marching out of King George Square into Albert Street, or the Valley of Death as it was then called.
The book showing arrests was on display at the “Taking to the Streets” exhibition.
In short, Maris performed a wide range of duties not performed by white-lab-coat-wearing civil libertarians.
Maris, with the help of many ordinary people, all participants not observers, did the real work of political activist defence in the struggles for democratic rights in Queensland during those years.
For example, Maris organised the publication of a manual “Not Guilty” (ISBN 0 9595424 0 X). The cover of the booklet is pictured above and pictures three people in front of the old magistrate’s court building.
Maris is the person in the middle ‘speaking no evil‘.
The person pictured as ‘hearing no evil‘ took photos of police who repeatedly arrested demonstrators. This person, Stephen Zaborowski, was mostly arrested himself. The third person on the right ‘seeing no evil‘ is me.The aim of “Not Guilty” was to provide tips to people who attended demonstrations and who may end up being arrested. This manual was written also to assist those people, who did not wish to have a lawyer represent them, to do their own case. The introduction is pictured below to give you the flavour of the manual and what it tried to achieve (double click to enhance):

When published in 1978, “Not Guilty” was dedicated to the 2,000 people who were arrested since the ban on street marches on 4th September 1977.
In those days, far more people represented themselves in court than were represented by lawyers.
The assistance of the small band of lawyers who wore white lab coats while appreciated was not indispensable.
While the white lab coat wearing lawyers and law students went on to join the elite and become magistrates, judges, government ministers, the street marchers went on with their ordinary lives, impeded from getting jobs in places like state government departments, many becoming active in their unions and community groups.
A number (like me) ended up in the commonwealth public service.
One of the white-lab-coat wearers, Wayne Goss, became premier of Queensland. His daughter, Caitlin, is to be a Rhodes Scholar in 2009 as was his son, Ryan, in 2007.
In contrast, Maris helps run a small independent school in the northern suburbs of Brisbane.
Why does history record only the people in the white-lab-coats but does not record the indispensable people like Maris?
Ian Curr
October 2006
Postscript: On 23 November 2006, BushTelegraph received the following email from former Queensland special branch detective, Barry Krosch:
Your article (NOT GUILTY) re the arrest of Terry O’Gorman has come to my attention tonight.
It is incorrect. I did not arrest Mr O’Gorman that evening. I have never arrested Mr O’Gorman.
I have raised this with Mr O’Gorman tonight, just so he is aware of the article and the error.
I do not intend getting too “cut up” over your mistake, however I do urge you, in the interests of historical accuracy and your own credibility, to correct the mistake. If you undertake professional research, as I do, you will find the arresting officer was the then OIC of Special Branch – one Detective Inspector TF.
I am currently working on a history of Special Branch, and it will be published as a thesis and/or book. You will probably find it all terribly interesting. I am very lucky as I have some very rare material.
Take care
The statement above by former Special Branch detective Krosch is correct in a technical sense only. He was not formally listed as the arresting officer, but he was responsible for it (along with other police in attendance).
On the night in question, Special Branch Detective Krosch did arrest Toni Hubbard (see photo). Toni sat down in protest in the forecourt of the parliamentary annexe (nicknamed the ‘Taj Mahal’). 
It was his arrest of Toni Hubbard that precipitated the arrest of Terry O’Gorman by special branch and other police.
What happened
About fifty police moved in on the demonstration to remove people from the forecourt. Detective Krosch first arrested Toni Hubbard as Toni sat on the ground. People were concerned at this arrest and moved forward. In the confusion the officer-in-charge of Special branch, Inspector Terry Flanagan, grabbed Terry O’Gorman and escorted him away with the help of another policeman. Krosch returned to talk to Flanagan after the arrests (there were three in all).
The Brisbane Courier Mail article that appeared the following day (30 April 1980) had this to say:
“When the woman was arrested, Labor MP for Chatsworth, Terry Mackenroth, asked police what was the charge. The police refused to tell him. He told them she was a ‘guest’ of his and asked for her to be freed. Mr Mackenroth claimed that he was brushed aside by police and told the woman was under arrest. Mr Mackenroth said later that the arrest was evidence that police had tried to provoke violence.”
It was then that police pushed people back to the gates of the Parliamentary annexe. As the gates were pushed shut Terry O’Gorman was arrested just inside the closing gate. In the melee caused by the police, Terry grabbed Maris Element’s arm. The Courier Mail reported that he yelled out “What’s the charge, what’s the charge?”.
As a footnote Terry Mackenroth became the police minister in the Goss government in the 1990s. I wrote to Terry Mackenroth asking for my special branch file to be released.
The reply (which I still have) received from Mackenroth was that the special branch files had been destroyed.
If you take what Krosch says at face value when he states “I am very lucky as I have some very rare material” former Police Minister Mackenroth is mistaken (about the files being destroyed).
Under the Goss Labor government some people were shown their special branch files, others were not.
Apparently former special branch officer Krosch has access to the special branch files and is intending to use that access in his forthcoming publication on the history of the Queensland special branch.
No history written by a former detective will wipe clean the lies, the distortion, and the dark role played by the special branch in the political history of Queensland.
Even old habits die hard.
Remarks by Krosch in his email like “I am very lucky as I have some very rare material” and “Take care” ring out across the years.
To the thousands who were involved in the street marches they bring back memories of thinly veiled threats so often spoken by special branch in those dark years. Words like: “we are going to get you, we are going to get you.”
What was the motivation of the special branch officers? We may never know, even with histories written by former officers.
But I do know Maris Element’s motivation:
“I just did things cos I thought that was the right thing to do, not for any other particular reason.“
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Hello Benython,
I am editor of Workers BushTelegraph.
I would like to conduct an online interview with Domenico Cacciola at Online Forum with Domenico Cacciola
Participants of this forum need only press the reply button to take part.
Domenico may wish to peruse the article Not Guilty before taking part.
Guidelines to the aims and conduct of discussion on Workers BushTelegraph can be found at the Aims tab at the top of the webpage.
If Domenico wishes to participate please let me know by return email or ask him to write his reply in the form provided below.
Regards,
Ian Curr
Ph: 07 3398 5215
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Email: iancurr@bigpond.com
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Odd Man Out is an excerpt of “The Second Father” by Domenico Caccciola published in the QWeekend of the Courier Mail on Saturday 4 July 2009.
Domenico, I love the true crime genre but isn’t portraying yourself as Serpico overdoing it a little? Take the following passage where you take on the ‘racist’ and ‘theiving’ Sergeant first class (Jumbo) McIntosh, ‘with a reputation for violence’, after he ‘threated you with your own gun’:
Common Domenico, it reads like one of your verbals. I think your ghost writer [Ben Robertson (UQP)] let you get a bit carried away with the cliches in that passage.
Seriously though, supposing we accept the general thrust of your book, that you were a cleanskin in the licensing squad and never accepted bribes from Jack Herbert, how do you explain all the sleazy special branch work you did? Did you see that as just part of the job description? Did you ever have any moral pangs about arresting and reporting on people who were struggling for democratic rights?
More importantly why were you and Senior Sergeant Alec Jeppesen cleanskins? You say Inspector Arthur Pitts was an Elliott Ness type character. I remember Pitts, he was the commander in charge of one of the big rallies, was it 22 October 1977? You know when the Qld police force arrested 418 people protesting uranium mining and export. Or was it when Constable Michael Egan resigned becasue he was fed up with the lies and corruption. Why didn’t you resign? Did you think about it? What made you decide to stay inside the whole rotten establishment? Did you think that you would have a better chance of staying alive inside than out?
See http://violawil.multiply.com/journal/item/69
[...] in the ’70’s, we had an enormous Special Branch for the small size of the population http://bushtelegraph.wordpress.com/2006/10/28/not-guilty/ . They were mostly corrupt Irish Catholics servicing a corrupt Calvinist Premier Bjelke Petersen. [...]
[...] in the ’70’s, we had an enormous Special Branch for the small size of the population http://bushtelegrap h.wordpress. com/2006/ 10/28/not- guilty/ . They were mostly corrupt Irish Catholics servicing a corrupt Calvinist Premier Bjelke Petersen. [...]
On 27 October 1985 Detective Barry Krosch was quoted in a Sunday Mail article, “The Unwanted Student” by Peter Hansen, Krosch said:
“I feel that I can speak for the Police Department and assure people the Special Branch has no files on students (at University of Queensland [sic]).”
This is untrue. Special Branch kept files of activities of students and staff at the University of Queensland.
“I do not go around arresting students”
This is untrue, Det. Barry Krosch did arrest a student shown in the photo in the article above and did assist in the arrest of students. For example on 31st of May 1978 Special Branch detectives Vernardos, Ferguson, Krosch together with Det (Mrs) Reid and police information officer Ian Hatcher assisted in the arrest of 8 students on Kessells Road near Griffith University during a street march opposing the ban on street marches by the Bjelke-Petersen Government. I have attached photos of police at the demonstration and my arrest by Det Glancy on that day in the file special-branch-outside-griffith-uni-1978.pdf [See end of article above].
On that same day, Det. Sgt Barry Cornelius O’Brien and Det. Patrick Clancy verballed me on a charge of willful and unlawful damage to a garden hose, the property of a magistrate. I pleaded “Not Guilty”. The police version of conversations I had with police that day were rejected by a jury later that year.
“I went to the watchouse as a favour for a civil liberties lawyer (Terry O’Gorman) who wanted to know about bail for someone (University Staff Member, Ms Carole Ferrier) who had been arrested (for protesting against the sacking of 1002 SEQEB linesman by the Bjelke-Petersen Government).”
Krosch was quoted as saying: “She [Ms Ferrier] saw me and said ‘I know you. Your name is Krosch and you are a student at the University, aren’t you?’ I said: ‘Yes. That’s right.’ She [Ms Ferrier] said ‘You were. Your student days are finished’.
This latter conversation with Ms Ferrier sounds like a verbal to me, something that Qld police used against demonstrators as indicated above, on this occasion it was published in the article by Peter Hansen in the Sunday Mail. Police roundsman Peter Hansen demonstrated yet again his great powers of investigative journalism by quoting uncritically Det. Krosch’s lies. You do not need to get straight 7s at Uni to know when someone is lying and Hansen never questioned his lies and feed them up to the public as truth. On 27 October 1985 I wrote to the Sunday Mail complaining about Det Krosch’e lies and Peter Hansen’s complicity in those untruths. To my knowledge my letter to the Editor was never published.
Hi John (Tracey)
I was never “outed” at UQ, I was always enrolled and operated openly as a tax paying student. I had great support from Students’ Union, staff and students. Fascinating few years though? I ended up going full time in 1992 (all 7s too John-how did you go?). Loved it. Shorts and thongs – no haircut for months – all that was missing was the joint? (I am a marathon runner and have never smoked – anything. Yourself?)
I then did a Masters at UQ. I did a thesis on “Whistleblowing in Queensland” and then established the Internal Witness Support Unit (Whistleblowing) for the Queensland Police Service. Between 1987 and about 1999, I was attached to the Fitzgerald Inquiry and the CJC.
I retired in 2002 to return to my home town of Kingaroy (John mumbles to himself “Where else would a Special Branch guy retire!!)
I worked for EQ here, but retired (again) to concentrate on my own local political activism. Stay tuned!
My Special Branch book is to place on the record a total account of Special Branch. If I don’t do it – noone else will. Started as a PhD thesis – but I have far too much material for that. Should be two journal articles within months. When they appear, you will be advised.
Finally, John, I am still a part time investigator and I do it well. Working for several agencies. I don’t monitor web sites per se, but I do keep abreast of Queensland issues. I happen to think Ian Curr is doing a reasonable job.
Watch Channel 7 at about 6.15 on Sunday night.
I extend to you the same invitation I extended to Ian. If you wanted to have a look around Kingaroy – let me know beforehand and I would be pleased to chat with you. I will even buy you lunch. I do not dwell too much in the past – I have a lot to do for my community here – that includes many Murri – Wakka Wakka.
Take care
Barry Krosch
Hello Ian
I used “Not Guilty” frequently during the Joh times and several times in the decades following – most recently before magistrate Noel Noonan!!!!
I have a success rate in court of about 50% as a direct result of this book – mainly because the police did not do their job properly in gathering evidence
It was not just the procedural information that is usefull in “Not Guilty” but the attitude of make the bastards do their homework if they want to convict as most cops are lazy and arrogant and often do not do their job properly
In my case before Noonan I had a Barrister who insisted I plead guilty so I sacked him and did it myself
He represented my partner in crime facing the same charges
I got aquitted and my partner in crime succumbed to the barrister’s superior wisdom and got a fine and a bond
the barrister had made a deal with the prosecutor for both of us based on guilty pleas
He said he did not want to jeopardise his working relationship with the prosecutor and refused to represent a not guilty plea
Lawyers work against their clients to fast track guilty pleas especially because legal aid does not pay for the time to research and run a trial
Aboriginal legal services tell their clients to plead guilty as a matter of course
Murri court is not accessible to not-guilty pleas so it is clearly an inducement to plead guilty
Routine guilty pleas is the second biggest factor in the high incarceration rate of Aboriginal people
The biggest factor is the racism of cops who know they can do anything to murris and they will be convicted if they are represented by Aboriginal legal services
A clear example of this are the circumstances that lead to the arrest of Mulrunji
His charges would have been thrown out of court had he lived to plead not guilty
Barry – what are you doing with yourself these days?
Last time I heard of you you were outed for being a spy on UQ campus
Is your thesis a cover for still doing this as your study was in the 80’s or do you just confine your surveillance to monitoring websites these days?
Please find my response to the claims by the former Queensland Special Branch officer, Barry Krosch, in the body of my article “Not Guilty“.
Ian Curr
23 November 2006
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:08 PM
To: bush_telegraph@optusnet.com.au
Subject: ATTENTION: MR CURR
Ian
Your article (NOT GUILTY) re the arrest of Terry O’Gorman has come to my attention tonight.
It is incorrect. I did not arrest Mr O’Gorman that evening. I have never arrested Mr O’Gorman.
I have raised this with Mr O’Gorman tonight, just so he is aware of the article and the error.
I do not intend getting too “cut up” over your mistake, however I do urge you, in the interests of historical accuracy and your own credibility, to correct the mistake. If you undertake professional research, as I do, you will find the arresting officer was the then OIC of Special Branch – one Detective Inspector TF.
I am currently working on a history of Special Branch, and it will be published as a thesis and/or book. You will probably find it all terribly interesting. I am very lucky as I have some very rare material.
Take care,
Barry Krosch
Kingaroy
Hi Ian!
Excellent article! Thanks for letting me know. Brisbane has so many unsung heroes.
Regards,
Megan
PS By the way, I understand Wayne Goss’ son is our next Rhodes Scholar
Hello Megan,
A correction. It is Wayne’s Goss’ daughter who is the Queensland Rhodes scholar for 2009 not his son.
in solidarity
Ian
Apologies Megan.
You were right, Goss’s son was rhodes scholar in 2007.
Foolishly, I did not consider the possibility that both brother and sister would be named rhodes scholars in the space of 2 years.
No doubt the selectors were forced to chose brother and sister on merit.
Now, why should I be surprised by that?
Those Goss’s are a such intelligent mob and out of all the tertiary students in Queenslan the two Goss siblings are part of the record breaking eight (8) Rhodes Scholars in a row who went to UQ.
Reference: UQ Contact magazine July 2009.